I was wondering if you Fellas would like to read a write up about

[Sinatra877]

I've been thinking about doing some write ups in the forum but I'm not too sure what you guys would like to read about so I'll just post this little poll and you guys can divert me to the right area...I'll break it down further after I get your initial responses.

[Toecutter1201]

PSD stuff sounds interesting, so we can see how the folks who do it for a living compare,anything cqb in my opinion will be needed realllllllllllllllll soon! while in the military standard assualts and repells got real boring and since the next time i will see any type of combat will be when some dumbshit decides to ignore the signs on my gate out by the road and breaks in, Yeah CQB is always interesting!:logic:

oh yeah if it's possible, base it on tacticool shotties since i dont own one of them pistol thingy's:limp:

[jkroner659]

Toe, when the fuck are ya gonna get a pistol thingy??? Just get a Beretta 92fs or M9 and be done with it...how the hell can anyone just own shotties???:p

[Sinatra877]

Just keep on voting. It's a multiple choice. I'll break it down a bit more after we get a clear cut winner.

[KPierce]

To be honest I voted for all of the above. I always enjoy reading on any of the topics and welcome the opportunity to learn something new and useful.

Can't wait to see what your first article is Bro

[max4073]

since i dont own one of them pistol thingy's:limp:

I may just have to send you my .22 mag Derringer. :pat9xu:

[Sinatra877]

Can't wait to write about them either. As if I have a real job to go to at the moment. Maybe Dash can write up a sticky regarding the liability on my article that it is merely an opinion and anything I relay to you fellas is merely conjecture and that you should not mistake it for training nor implied that you should attempt this and it may get you hurt or killed and that the AGO Forum and I won't take responsibility if you read a trick, try to perform it with your empty pistola in the living room one night and blow off your big toe and stuff. Stranger things have happened. HINT-HINT.

Like I said, we'll break it down some more to specifics later on. In my own personal opinion, weapon reviews would be a bit dry. Most of the weapons I've had experience with would never grace my walk in closet nor see any standard, run of the mill US gunowner. Besides, what Gun Mag doesn't review toys? I'm leaning towards tricks so far and showing some declassified PSD tactics with diagrams and shit. It's different when you have a dignitary to protect and folks just don't normally see it or shown it.

So far, it's leaning towards weapons reviews and trick shooting and nasty tactics. Or what I'd call dirty deeds, done dirt cheap. Who said Human Flesh wasn't cheap? Evidentally they never went to Thailand with a box of body condoms and a case of Scotch.

Oh those glorious times visiting Subic Bay....remember those times Toe?

[sleepyweasel]

Toe, when the fuck are ya gonna get a pistol thingy??? Just get a Beretta 92fs or M9 and be done with it...how the hell can anyone just own shotties???:p
how the hell can someone own just 1 handgun:pat9xu:......



sinatra, i read alot about the topics listed in the poll, but its hard to sort through the BS and the overtactical/overcomplicated training, then theres always conflicting advice.......

I would like to read more about psd tactics, and any advice on speeding up my draw to fire time is appreciated......

Also like reviews on firearms(i plan on writing a few for the forum soon), but if at all possible review weapons that are affordable......theres already enough reviews out there for $2000-$3000 custom 1911's(guns and ammo:laugh:)....personally i would like more info on sig's, and enjoy head to head(comparison) reviews..........

anyways can't wait to see what you come up with.....-sleepy

[Sinatra877]

sinatra, i read alot about the topics listed in the poll, but its hard to sort through the BS and the overtactical/overcomplicated training, then theres always conflicting advice.......I would like to read more about psd tactics, and any advice on speeding up my draw to fire time is appreciated......Also like reviews on firearms(i plan on writing a few for the forum soon), but if at all possible review weapons that are affordable......theres already enough reviews out there for $2000-$3000 custom 1911's(guns and ammo:laugh:)....personally i would like more info on sig's, and enjoy head to head(comparison) reviews..........anyways can't wait to see what you come up with.....-sleepy

I was talking with another Buddy from BW today and he told me that I needed to refer back to my email regarding National Security. Here is an excerpt of that with items of importance underlined. Seems like there are alot of limitations on what I can divulge which would include operations and you have to admit, over the past few months, I've dropped a few details here and there. I don't want to revoke my clearance, go to prison nor get whacked by that US Gov't/Italian Mob team that CBnL would advocate. Sorry about that guys. Seems that PSD stuff is off limits for now and the next 25 years and this is merely the lightest of the clearance warnings I have. Maybe I should just admit that I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll. I told you guys I was in deep:

THIS IS A COPIED TEXT FROM MY PERSONAL COMPUTER FROM BW'S OPSEC PERSONNEL. READ BUT DON'T COPY.


ACTION REQUIRED! DO NOT DELETE UNTIL YOU HAVE READ AND RETURNED ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF UNDERSTANDING



CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION (CNSI) ACCESS BRIEFING


(TACTICAL, “FLASH-BANG” VERSION)


1.As an employee, contractor or consultant of/to Blackwater Lodge & Training Center, Inc. or Blackwater Security Consulting LLC you have been determined to require access to Classified National Security Information (CNSI) in the performance or support of a classified U. S. Government contract.

2.A U.S. Government security clearance is a privilege, not a right. You have been investigated, favorably adjudicated & have been granted a security clearance eligibility by one or more agencies of the U. S. Government. You have also signed an SF-312 Classified Information Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) and are reminded that it is a lifelong, binding contract between you and the U.S. Government where you get eligibility for access and the government gets your pledge to protect all CNSI that you have, or will have knowledge of for the rest of your life. You are also reminded that as long as you hold a U.S. Government security clearance eligibility, you are subject to CONTINUOUS EVALUATION (CE), to ensure you remain eligible for the clearance you’ve been granted.

3.Access to CNSI is based on a security clearance at the appropriate level and a contractually driven “NEED-TO-KNOW”, that is, having a clearance does not justify a person having access to classified information if it isn’t specifically related to their job or function on a specific classified contract.

4.CNSI is OFFICIAL U. S. Government information that has been determined to require protection in the interest of the national security. CNSI must not be confused with other categories of “sensitive” but unclassified information, be it government or corporate owned. In order to be eligible for classification, the information must fit into one of 8 categories having to do with: military plans/ops, foreign gov’t info, intelligence, diplomatic relations, scientific/techno/economics, nuclear, vulnerabilities to national security, and WMD. Information can NOT be classified to conceal violations, incompetence, errors, prevent embarrassment, restrain competition or prevent/delay release of info that no longer warrants protection in the interest of national security.

5.There are three levels of CNSI, each with increasing levels of sensitivity. They are “CONFIDENTIAL”, “SECRET” and “TOP SECRET”. The sensitivity level corresponds with the degree of damage that could result from a compromise due to loss or unauthorized disclosure. Compromise of “CONFIDENTIAL” CNSI could result in (identifiable) damage; “SECRET”, serious damage; and “TOP SECRET”, extremely grave damage to national security.

6.There are two methods of classifying official gov’t information. Original & Derivative. Original classification is reserved for selected Original Classification Authorities (OCA’s) within Gov’t who are largely transparent to you as a contractor. Derivative classification is extracting, paraphrasing, copying or otherwise regurgitating in a new form, information from a source document that has already been classified by an OCA.

7.CNSI may only be declassified by an OCA. All CNSI is (should be) marked for declassification when it is created and should bear one of the following 4 options: a specific DATE if known; the conclusion of a specific EVENT; a date 10 years from initial classification or in certain circumstances a date up to 25 years from initial classification.

8.This brief can not cover every scenario you could face as an operational/tactically deployed person. However, you should not be in a position to send or receive shipments of CNSI, and will most likely be exposed to it through briefings or meetings with local government security authorities within the scope of the contract under which you are working. You should follow their local instructions on safeguarding CNSI disclosed to you orally or hard copy.

9.In general, CNSI in physical form must be stored in a GSA approved safe when not in use. If it’s “knowledge only”, keep it securely inside your brain and don’t let it slip out of your mouth accidentally. Be smart. Be safe. Be secure. Disclose CNSI only within the scope of your contractual responsibilities and then only to persons who you know have the requisite security clearance and need-to-know.

10.Although it is unlikely that you’ll be generating, marking or reproducing hard copy CNSI in your environment you must know that CNSI should be marked appropriately with the highest level of the material stamped top & bottom, front & back (if there’s a over), with paragraph and portion markings (C), (S), or (TS) as required for the level of information in each paragraph or portion.

11.CNSI in physical form should be retained only as long as necessary and should be disposed of either by returning to the government entity that provided it, or by complete destruction so as to preclude any reconstruction by shredding (using an approved shredder) or burning completely and stirring/scattering the ashes.

12.There are always threats to CNSI, especially in an operational/tactical environment. Because humans are involved, the greatest threat & vulnerability are people… and is usually from within, mostly due to simple carelessness, negligence or worse espionage for personal gain. Other potential threats include, but are not limited to terrorist organizations, other non-U.S. military entities, foreign diplomatic entities, old fashioned espionage by foreign intelligence entities, the press & news media and even other private contractors. Again, be AWARE, be smart, be secure.

13.Finally, there are numerous rules, regulations and laws under Title 18 U.S. Code that govern the safeguarding of CNSI and there are severe consequences in cases of espionage, intentional or negligent disclosure of CNSI. Consequences range from termination of employment, contract cancellation, loss of company facility clearance, monetary damages/fines, federal prison sentences for any number of years up to and including death. Reiterating…Be smart. Don’t be stupid.

It's longer but you'll have to get a clearance to see the rest of it. Kidding, there are alot of departments, numbers and names asscociated with this document and that would be a gross violation of the clearance I've been granted. A lot of secret squirrel stuff. However...it doesn't limit me on declassified techniques that is just pure common sense.

[Sinatra877]

Right now the board is leaning towards weapons evals and tricks of the trade/techniques. That may the best subject for now. Anyone with a rifle and a semi pistol can deploy the tricks I'm probably going to write about. Relax Sleepy. They may be long reads but I'll make it simple OK?

Just to give you a hint. Practice with your TV's remote controls and just think reflexive point and click. Pistols are the same principle and Rifles are just a larger point and click interface tool. It will make you faster to react and you'll be more fluid in your movements that will need less time to engage. Think combat, not target. As I've pointed out before, does it matter if I pop a tango in their left eyeball or their forehead? In combat, as long as they drop and blood and grey matter fountains out...it won't matter a damn. Look up the 5% shot. I'll wait for the poll to quit and I'll create another one to break it down some more.

Anyone hear from Dash yet? How's his Mom doing?

[sleepyweasel]

I was thinking.....psd=personal self defense..........sinatra i have no idea what the hell you are talking about:toofunny:

too many accranyms for us non military folks i guess:laugh:

[sleepyweasel]

also with post #9 we have exceeded our bandwidth ....nice talking to ya all

[Sinatra877]

PSD is an acronym for "Personal/Protective Security Detail", it is sometimes referred to as DP for "Dignitary Protection" although some of us say "Dumbass Protection". That's when you tell your dignitary what route we'll take today and and why, give them the security briefing on how to stay safe...like where to sit in the vehicle in the convoy and they'll just change the entire plan on you because they don't want to do it or take in the security briefing to heart because it'll make them look like a puss.

Those are the dangerous clients. If there is one thing that I have learned is that you are the expert in the matter, not the clients and if they start giving you the lowdown on how to operate, you'll be better off by not taking the contract. Because they'll eventually get killed, get you killed or one of your men killed or all of the above. Never let the client dictate security measures too you. If they have to be at a certain place at sometime for a reason, a good client will be open to the two to three options that you have made for them and select one. Not the other way around. Some teams have been totally wiped out because of a mid level Government worker whom thought their shit didn't stink because they had their own protective security detail. There are those who also will treat their PSD details like Butlers with weapons. That's a big no-go in my book.

I had one bitch in Iraq that wanted us to get her coffee and pickup her packages at the APO (Army Post Office). One day, she was in shit creek because she had sent one of the members to get her diplomatic pouch for her and it left us short to react to a threat. Next thing you know, M4's were rockin' away and there are dead folks around us, she's freaking out and blaming us for causing the incident. Fuck that. We dropped her name off to her superior and she was removed post haste and the team member who did her chore was harshly counseled for his actions. I think the Kid thought he'd be her buddy and loosen her up and probably get laid. Those "Dignitaries" are the assholes and then when something happens, they'll point the finger at you or someone will sue you later on.

[Toecutter1201]

Toe, when the fuck are ya gonna get a pistol thingy??? Just get a Beretta 92fs or M9 and be done with it...how the hell can anyone just own shotties???:p

dude i've told ya, i have tried and tried with lots of different pistol thingy's from little .22 six shot revolvers to custom made semi's in .40 and .45, 357's 9mm's and every time the most common phrase outta my mouth during the target practice session is "Now where the fuck did that round go?" and yes i seriously leaned an old target stand against my nephews big red barn ............... and missed from 10 yds. now i did manage to hit the 22" x 36" human silouette target right in the Mc Nuggets with a friends pistol (which i really liked) i think it was called an IAI javelina 10 mm it had this really cool looking barrel almost triangle-ish. toecutter came really close to buying it.

I may just have to send you my .22 mag Derringer. :pat9xu:
nah, but thanks, i'd probably just end up deflecting a round and killing one of the neighbors cows!

how the hell can someone own just 1 handgun:pat9xu:......


sick'em sleepy! LOL

[Sinatra877]

Of course there are .410 shotgun pistols. That may be right up Toe's alley.

[Sinatra877]

OK Folks...the poll is starting to peter out. Tell anyone you can to cast a vote.

[Sinatra877]

Still need more votes Guys...encourage the ones that haven't voted to vote.