Computer problems...

[jkroner659]

If I happen to disappear for a while I am having computer problems. This started happening Thursday night, I noticed when playing a game my cpu load was maxed out which dosent normally happen and the game was running real shitty. I then tried to shut down my pc and when it got to the point where it says windows is now shutting down(and normally shuts the computer and monitor off, only the monitor turns off:pissed: the computer keeps running. It may be a mother board issue, I don't know. I now have to hold the comp tower power button for 5 seconds after it used to shut down to turn off my computer. After I did this an hour ago...I tried to then turn my computer back on...well it turned on but the monitor did not display anything...I FUCKING hate computer problems:pissed::hoppinmad:. David does this sound like a mother board problem? I was reading a tech forum and the guy ends up replacing his motherboard and it solved the problem...here is the thread... Hopefully I will see you guys tommorow..if not I will be back eventually as soon as this is fixed.

http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/406551-solved-computer-wont-shut-off.html

[Sinatra877]

I know you asked suggestions from Dash but I thought I could get too you quicker. Dealing with a low speed computer is tedious to say the least. It gotta suck ass. I remember when I got my first desktop back in '94...just an old 486 computer with all the bells and whistles then and paying out big money for the technological advances back then like a $120 for a standard 14.4 bps landline modem and $300 for a 400 MB hard drive. Amazing huh? I'm presently on my third desktop and my second laptop. Thankfully they are a tax deduction for me.

Here's a few tricks if you want too. If you have too much in your stack, meaning back programs running that you may not be aware of there may be a solution too that. You can hit your Ctrl-Alt-Delete and it should bring up your Task Manager.

Once you list the processes tab you will get a gigantic list of items running in the rear that you may never ever heard of. First, scrutinize all that you see. Try to find out what they do. I would suggest it, but don't take my absolute word on it, and screen all the ones that say under the User Name listings as Owner. If you click on any of these "Owner" programs, select it and hit the "End Process" button on it. Be careful that you don't end the process on programs that lists the programs with a dll or any exe file that you may want to use. This will free up some of the programs that it may be running and it'll free up quite a few MB memory for you to run faster with. A high speed PC video game manual will recommend this to improve your speed. Follow their instructions and you will greatly improve your performance.

After you finish that, go to your Taskbar and Startup Menu. If you look at the bottom right you'll see a "customized" button. A large list of items may be put into your Task Bar. You will see a plethora of programs that are attached too your taskbar. Select the ones you wish to see and you'll see a drag down screen on the right under the Behavior list. You will see the options of Hide When Inactive, Always show and Always hide. Look at them all and hide the ones you don't think need to be displayed in the taskbar, or click Hide When Inactive for the side programs that you would want too see if you wanted to use them and Always Show on programs that you wouldn't want to do without. Video memory is greatly improved as well.

Also take a look at your desktop icons. The more icons on your desktop screen drains chipspeed. Consolidate them as best as you can. For instance, I have MS Office 203. It has Powerpoint, Outlook, Word and Excel. I use most of the programs all the time.

If I posted a icon on the destop display that way, it would take more memory, chip speed and video memory. I consolidated the programs listed above and put it into a simple labled MS Office folder and then took the folder with all my basic utilities and stuffed them into another folder with all my other utility programs. This cuts down on the clutter on the screen and will streamline it. An extravagant looking background page can also drain resources to display them. Push comes to shove you can always just select one color as your background. That may help as well.

There is another area on the computer control settings...where, I don't remember that gives you an opportunity to order the computer not to open some files automatically. I'm sure that all I wrote above can help your performance.

I would also download any driver updates that you may need for your hardware. Who know's if a cybergeek in his laboratory has written programming drivers that are quicker than your originals.

I'm sure you have done a thorough Scan Disk and a Defrag on it. It could solve you from doing any of this at all.

[Sinatra877]

BTW: JK, I think your original post thread was the longest thing I've ever seen you write up. Maybe my long winded short novels are rubbing off on you.

[Dash Riprock]

My first question would have to be what brand of PC is it, how old and what OS are you running?

Computers can be a pain in the ass to troubleshoot sometimes.

Try going into safe mode and then from there try to shutdown. The reason being is safe mode loads with minimum drivers and running programs. If it shuts down normally from there it's probably going to be OS or software/driver related.

If that is the case think of the last thing you installed and remove it and see if that fixes the problem.

It could also be hardware related. You could open the case... Unplugging the machine first... and reseat the video, sound and network cards and whatever other cards you have in there and especially remove and reseat the power supply connection to the motherboard.

Try that and the stuff Sinatra suggested and if it doesn't work there could be a number of issues causing it. Failing HDD, motherboard, a card connected to the motherboard, corrupt OS files, PSU...

[jkroner659]

Dash, it's a custom build(ecollegepc.com) ASUS motherboard, pentium d, only about 1 year old maybe a tad more, and im running XP. Can't get into safe mode my pc wont boot up... I listed my computer specs over at the BF...I gotta go my library computer time is almost out...

Well I am at the fucking public library if that tells you anything guys:pissed::AR15firing::pissed:. My computer would not turn on today(it started but no video signal was sent). I overnighted a brand new motherboard today it should be here by Monday. Look over at the Beretta Forum for the link(computer forum thread) I posted where a guy was having the same exact issue. He replaced his motherboard and that solved the problem. It better be the problem, since I just spent 144 bucks plus 85 bucks for labor...Will find out Monday. I can only check here once or twice a day since I have to go to the library or a buddy's house...talk to ya guys later thanks for the help, I really think it is the board and I hope I am right, the technician thought so too. Cross your fingers for me:laugh:. Thanks guys.

[Dash Riprock]

The $144 for MBD is ok, but kind of high... The $85 for someone to install it is insane. A couple of screws a few wire connections and seating the cards and you have a newly installed MBD...

Anyway, It may very well be the board. It happens, BUT it could also be putting a bandaid on the problem. Since a tech is involved it likely is the MBD... However, you'd be surprised at the number of techs and network admins that called me to troubleshoot their clients machines when I did tech support for Gateway and Dell...

[Sinatra877]

Hmmm....

Have you dug out your old startup disk or your Windows XP/Vista disk yet? Put it in your CD Rom and try starting it up that way. It could help getting the ball rolling.

[jkroner659]

The $144 for MBD is ok, but kind of high... The $85 for someone to install it is insane. A couple of screws a few wire connections and seating the cards and you have a newly installed MBD...

Anyway, It may very well be the board. It happens, BUT it could also be putting a bandaid on the problem. Since a tech is involved it likely is the MBD... However, you'd be surprised at the number of techs and network admins that called me to troubleshoot their clients machines when I did tech support for Gateway and Dell...

Well the motherboard itself was 96 bucks(newegg.com lists it for 89.99) so thats not bad, however I paid an extra 40 bucks to overnight it:limp:, plus the tech is my old buddy who owns his own computer repair company. He comes out to the people's house instead of them having to bring their computer to them, maybe that is why he charges 85 bucks an hour???

[jkroner659]

Hmmm....

Have you dug out your old startup disk or your Windows XP/Vista disk yet? Put it in your CD Rom and try starting it up that way. It could help getting the ball rolling.

Well Sinatra normally my pc wont output a video signal, so it turns on but you can't do anything. I rather get a new motherboard and try that then to re-install windows...I usually read your long posts(except for that story...I will maybe even tonight since my pc is working now).

[Sinatra877]

No video output! Is your video card still working and is it connected to the motherboard? I haven't seen a video card built into a motherboard in years. I thought HP stopped building them that way a long time ago. BTW: I'm still laughing at that fucked up Cat...I'm almost crying...I could barely breathe.

[jkroner659]

No video output! Is your video card still working and is it connected to the motherboard? I haven't seen a video card built into a motherboard in years. I thought HP stopped building them that way a long time ago. BTW: I'm still laughing at that fucked up Cat...I'm almost crying...I could barely breathe.

Ya both of my video cards are working... and of course it's not built into the MB silly:limp::D, are we in the 80's Sinatra...:pat9xu:...it's a power issue I think with the motherboard but I will replace both the Motherboard and the power supply to be safe. I don't have a HP...I have a custom built mid priced "gaming rig", ya I got that cat pic in an email from my cousin:laugh:

[Sinatra877]

Ya both of my video cards are working... and of course it's not built into the MB silly:limp::D, are we in the 80's Sinatra...:pat9xu:...it's a power issue I think with the motherboard but I will replace both the Motherboard and the power supply to be safe. I don't have a HP...I have a custom built mid priced "gaming rig", ya I got that cat pic in an email from my cousin:laugh:

I got an old ASUS motherboard if you need one. For the life of me I don't know if it still works. I hand built a PIII 600 mhz system and overloaded SDRAM into it like a motherfucker. It was ok for it's day and it has a soundblaster 32 mb and a GeForce 2 videocard with about 256mb. In it. On the other hand, I do have a pretty good video card from this system that I replaced it with an ATI 500 Mb. I gotta find out if it will fit into your system though...how does it plug in AGP, standard PCI or advanced VPCI. This one is a VPCI card. You're free to have it. You just have to name your first born after me. It's a video out system too and compatible with Media Center too.

Who loves ya' Pallie?

[jkroner659]

Thanks for the offer Sinatra, but every thing else is still good so I just need a exact replacement MB. I have a sata hard drive, ddr 2 memory and 2 pci express video cards so that MB would not be compatible with everything I have thanks for the offer though.

[RiverFisher]

Jason, I checked with a buddy of mine who works at No Such Agency and they had some really interesting satellite images of your place. Some weird monkey like creatures were sneaking across the street from Merck wearing tin foil hats. They were inside for about ten minutes and hurried back across the street just as a jogger approached. Not sure what all of that was about, but here is a link to a thread that may bring anyone who is not up on the joke, up to date.:Peace!:


http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=25675&highlight=merck+monkey

[jkroner659]

:D Thanks a lot Riverfisher for bringing everyone "up to date" :asshole: :D


Guys I just was reading other tech forums and it could very well be a bios issue or software issue, but the tech only hooked up a new power supply and said it was probably the motherboard...what if he did not diagnose the problem correctly??? This guy has his own pc repair business and is an old friend, I would hate to get into an argument over whether or not he misdiagnosed my problem and wasted a lot of money.

But then again if my computer can't really shut down correctly and only starts up 5-10% of the time how the hell are we supposed to update the bios if that is the problem??? And when I install this new motherboard and new power supply(the power supply i just want to do just in case since im doing the motherboard now). This problem is a pain in the ass since I don't see how we could fix this by doing software crap if the computer does not restart or shut off correctly, that makes trying to update shit almost impossible right??? Fuck computer problems:pissed::2gunsfiring:

[Sinatra877]

Jason, I checked with a buddy of mine who works at No Such Agency and they had some really interesting satellite images of your place. Some weird monkey like creatures were sneaking across the street from Merck wearing tin foil hats. They were inside for about ten minutes and hurried back across the street just as a jogger approached. Not sure what all of that was about, but here is a link to a thread that may bring anyone who is not up on the joke, up to date.:Peace!:


http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=25675&highlight=merck+monkey

I'm fucking dying here... :toofunny:

[jkroner659]

Still am having problems after replacing the motherboard. I was taking off the cpu heatsink and found that 3 of the 4 pins that hold the fan/heatsink to the cpu/motherboard were broken so thats why my computer was so loud all these months. It may very well be the cpu but at least its under warrenty. I will trouble shoot more tommorow but it was not just the motherboard so....I am at the library I cant use my computer till tommorow since I dont have a working fan/heatsink until tommorow. I may not be around as much until I figure this damn problem out. So it may be the cpu went partially bad since it was overheating. Don't know yet...talk to you guys later cross your fingers for me.

[RiverFisher]

...and toes too (that takes talent-and really long toes).

As for "updating everyone", no problem. I know you hate to see that one brought up again, but if you go back and read it, you can't help but laugh.
Just ask Sinatra....

Good luck getting back online.:pat9xu:

[jkroner659]

Ok well I installed a new heatsink/fan(better than stock) that actually is making contact with the cpu now, and damn this computer is quiet:cool2:.

All that was done was I replaced the motherboard. However we were having intermittent problems last night but the heatsink was not on good. So I am not 100% sure if my problem is fixed but I will give the computer a good workout tonight and see if I have any problems...so good so far...Ill let ya know after I give it a hard sli(2 video cards) workout on call of duty:cool2:.

[jkroner659]

No problems so far but I have not yet played any stressful games right now I am running spyware/antivirus programs.

It seems odd that it was a combination of a motherboard and the heatsink/fan but I know at the very least the heatsink/fan needed to be replaced, the pins that hold the heatsink on were broken so it was not making good contact with the cpu(hence the noisy cpu fan since the motherboard was telling the fan to spin faster since lots of heat was building up). So if I do not have problems tonight playing call of duty on sli mode for about an hour or 2 then I will consider this problem solved:cool2:. My new heatsink/fan is huge and quiet... here is is...I reccommend this fan/heatsink compared to the stock intel fan this thing is quiet!

http://www.aerocool.us/p-cooler/xfire/xfire.html