to me this an abuse of police authority

[Headhunter 13]

not to mention fucking rediculous


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070909/ap_on_fe_st/odd_salty_burger

[Sinatra877]

Many late night joints are usually manned by former convicts. When I was on patrol, I got sick at a few times after eating at a fast food joint and after those experiences, I would just bring in my own dinner. This is not a situation that civilians face or would understand clearly because it doesn't happen too them on a regular basis.

This is not a little thing...alot of Police have been made sick deliberately by the staff at a whole bunch of fast food joints. So it's a very common scenario. Even though I may have never even known, seen or spoken with any of the staff at a fast food joint, there is a good possibility that there is someone cooking back in the rear fixing the burger that was busted on a DUI, marijuana or cocaine possession that just wants revenge on anyone in a police uniform. It happens all the time. Folks will poison them, spit on it, drop it on the floor near the dead mouse in the trap...whatever. It's horrible but it happens.

The article said that she is facing possible charges therefore no one was arrested yet. Most likely a complaint and statement affidavit was just filled out by the charging officer and sent too the DA/prosecutor. Since the situation lacks evidence of intent to do harm, there is little probable cause to make an arrest at present time. She may have just spilled salt on the burger afterall but any prosecutor will have too prove actual "intent" too make the Officer sick and that'll be very hard.

[Headhunter 13]

Kendra Bull was arrested Friday, charged with misdemeanor reckless conduct and freed on $1,000 bail.

And as they said after he tasted it why did he finish it if it was too salty. I agree with what you said but how sick was he if he could go back question and arrest her. I am sure ther are assholes out that that will and do that shit not only to police but to other people as well. This sounds like he over reacted

[jkroner659]

Wonder how the crime lab will test it if he ate it...and the fast food joint got rid of the few salty burgers...:love4:

[Dash Riprock]

Let's see here... A cop gets a salty burger and he puts someone in jail. I got bits of a fucking roach in a bag of fries from McDonalds one day and called everyone I could think of to complain. What happened? Nothing, not a damn thing!

There's a point where cops have to stop being cops accept being human just like the rest of us. They should not receive special treatment because of their job.

Just like that video I posted a couple of weeks ago of that cop that arrested that girl for giving him the wrong change back... He of course was wrong and she won a 6 figure settlement. What happens if I'm short changed? It's my word against the cashiers and most I could do is sue. If I had a badge does that mean I can arrest anyone I want for any reason I want or should I follow the same rules set for everyone else?

We know how it should be and how it is in reality though.

All that said though, I believe those in the food industry have a responsibility that should be taken very seriously. If someone purposely does something to another persons food, regardless of who they, a cop, white, black, whatever that person should absolutely be held accountable and depending on what they did maybe some prison food for a while would teach them a serious lesson on not to fuck around like that.

I don't think a salty burger from a fast food joint falls under that category though...

[Sinatra877]

If it tasted wrong, why did he finish it? It is a bit of a moot point. It actually doesn't sound serious. A $1k bond is like slapping someone in the face here. There was someone in Florida that got charged with aggravated battery w/food against an Officer which is enhanced. Makes it a first degree felony that's worth 10 years enhanced too 15 years. Now that's alot of time for a bad burger.

There are laws that we all have too follow. Most states define them quite well and...well...all I can say is Cops lose their jobs and get sued for primarily three things in their personal conduct. The three B's. Booze, Broads and Bucks. But there are another set...False Arrest, Excessive Force and Improper Search and Seizure. All these are under the 4th Amendment and 8th Amendment. Basically violating someones guaranteed Civil Rights. I guess if he really thinks he has a case, he wouldn't be putting himself in the line of fire to lose it all. I'm curious too see where this will go though. Sorry I'm so pro-Cop guys. I'd like to really see the merits of the case before I make a judgement against another brother in blue. If it's fucked...he should be held responsible though.

Maybe he regurgitated it in a nice ziploc baggie for the forensic team. I'm sure they were just thrilled to get that evidence. Since he ate it all I wonder if the Officer could be charged with tampering with evidence, failure to do duty (not dootie) and misconduct unbecoming. All those are about 10-15 years for a dirty cop. Isn't Florida great? Remind me to tell you guys about the guy that ate a one lb bag of marijuana and how we had to monitor evidence as he got a good "stoning" in the hospital bed. That was a job from hell that day. Oy!

After re-reading the article and making a judgement on it so far...it doesn't sound as if she had intent to poison the cop. At the most the prosecutor will have is a civil suit against that McD's. Shit, most gals at 20 doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground. I think this will be a tough sell. I think she'll be able to sue for false arrest later on.

[Dash Riprock]

I'm the type that takes the side of right no matter who it is or what their job is.

When I was in college I did security at a smaller mall. One day I caught a shoplifter. He gave me no problem obeyed my commands and showed no signs of aggression or anything.

When the sheriffs dept got their they of course showed up with their dicks wagging showing off for the girls that worked in the store... Underage girls I might add, but anyway their conduct disgusted me.

The crook had I'd say about $75 to $100 of merchandise in his bag. When I was called back to the store they had about 6 bags of stuff on the counter which totaled just over $500... Yup, they wanted a felony arrest instead of a misdemeanor.

I refused to have anything to do with it and had no problem telling them they were wrong. I was more or less threatened to keep my mouth shut about it and was told there's 2 sides, theirs and the wrong side.

Here's the way I saw it. The shoplifter was wrong, he broke the law and he was going to pay for it, but it's up to a judge to decide how he pays for it, not mine, not that cops and especially not that smartass little manager bitch in a shoe store.

What that cop did was illegal. What he did made him no better than the criminal and the way I see it everyone that went along with it was an accessory to that crime.

Sure, I know it has to suck to be a cop, arrest some piece of shit and watch them walk out of the courthouse with a shit eating smirk on their heads with little more than a slap on the wrist, but it's not a cops job to be a judge, jury or to make someone more quilty than they already are.

I cannot and will not ever agree with any cop conducting illegal activites just to put someone in jail. That's the same bullshit we used to condemn the USSR for.

Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT a cop hater. I like have tons of respect for good cops, but wouldn't piss on a bad one if he caught on fire. If it wasn't for my bad ears I'd likely be a cop today.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned and believe in doing the right thing no matter what...

[Sinatra877]

I'm sure your state has a statute to designate the difference. Usually it's a dollar amount. You could've filed a complaint. As the store's security, you could've made it on behalf of the security company or store. Yeah, that sound really cheesy. There's no reason to rub someone's rhubarb unless you have too.

I'm not advocating that there aren't bad/dirty cops. I would normally expect that folks/their departments would hold them accountable for their actions. Who knows? Maybe their shift commander told them to rewrite the arrest affidavit to only reflect petty theft. Do you know what happened later with that case?

Like I've always said too you guys. A cop should know better because we are trained to do so. We are and should be held to a higher standard because we are supposed to be an example for the community. All you guys know me better than that by now. Right Dave?

[CBnL]

yet another example of why the end of the world as we know it needs to hurry up and happen....
TGA / COMWEC

[Sinatra877]

TGA / COMWEC

CBnL, What do the acronyms listed above mean. I'm not that cyber acronym astute yet. Please tell me. I'm sorry you have lost the faith in the good ones. Just try to see that there are alot more Good cops out there and they do care or we wouldn't put ourselves in this line of business for $14 an hour. Generally, we really do want to help. We should help and unfortunately a few bad apples rise to the surface to taint all of us. Even though I'm not an active Cop anymore...my heart still answers to the call of my Beloved US Army and too the Blue Line.

To the rest of you guys. This is a frightening thing I'm about to admit. I haven't really had "friends" in a long time. Once I left (forced to resign) the Police Department I was treated somewhat of a cretin and leper. After all my deployments here and there...you make what I call "aquaintences" but not real friends. I can actually count all my real friends on one hand. However I consider you fellas too be my virtual family and friends or I wouldn't throw in my opinions here. I don't want to spoil it for anyone here. I want to remain cordial with all of you. I just see things with alot more scrutiny and can only make a snap decision after I analyze it for awhile unless I'm in a running gunfight. So please forgive me if I ruffled some of your collective feathers. It's the Virgo in me. Sometimes we can agree to disagree and I respect that. I'm just writing from my point of view.

I'm not beating my own drum here but I considered myself a good cop. I was polite as much as the other person would let me. I never hassled anyone unless I had too or someone forced my hand. I'm a bit of a pious man now. I've seen too much to say that God or Good doesn't exist. There are so many "Why?" questions out there in our World but maybe I'm being a little naiive...I believe generally all people have "good" in them. They want to do "good" things unless they show their true colors. There are still alot of Good Guys out on the street. I'm sure this particular Officer will be held responsible for his actions unless proven otherwise and I've always stressed that Cops that do "bad" things should be hammered down.

[Dash Riprock]

COMWEC is to my understanding, COmplete Meltdown of WEstern Civilization.

Not sure what TGA is, unless it's some sort of Trans Global thing. Or Total Global Annihilation, in which case is a little too out there and extreme for me.

I'm with ya Sinatra... :)

[Sinatra877]

I'm with ya Sinatra... :)

I just put in my two cents, sorry if I ruffled you guys. It wasn't intended to do that.

BTW: What did happen with that Grand Theft case you had? Was the guy charged and convicted for Petty or Grand Larceny?

[Headhunter 13]

CBnL, What do the acronyms listed above mean. I'm not that cyber acronym astute yet. Please tell me. I'm sorry you have lost the faith in the good ones. Just try to see that there are alot more Good cops out there and they do care or we wouldn't put ourselves in this line of business for $14 an hour. Generally, we really do want to help. We should help and unfortunately a few bad apples rise to the surface to taint all of us. Even though I'm not an active Cop anymore...my heart still answers to the call of my Beloved US Army and too the Blue Line.

To the rest of you guys. This is a frightening thing I'm about to admit. I haven't really had "friends" in a long time. Once I left (forced to resign) the Police Department I was treated somewhat of a cretin and leper. After all my deployments here and there...you make what I call "aquaintences" but not real friends. I can actually count all my real friends on one hand. However I consider you fellas too be my virtual family and friends or I wouldn't throw in my opinions here. I don't want to spoil it for anyone here. I want to remain cordial with all of you. I just see things with alot more scrutiny and can only make a snap decision after I analyze it for awhile unless I'm in a running gunfight. So please forgive me if I ruffled some of your collective feathers. It's the Virgo in me. Sometimes we can agree to disagree and I respect that. I'm just writing from my point of view.

I'm not beating my own drum here but I considered myself a good cop. I was polite as much as the other person would let me. I never hassled anyone unless I had too or someone forced my hand. I'm a bit of a pious man now. I've seen too much to say that God or Good doesn't exist. There are so many "Why?" questions out there in our World but maybe I'm being a little naiive...I believe generally all people have "good" in them. They want to do "good" things unless they show their true colors. There are still alot of Good Guys out on the street. I'm sure this particular Officer will be held responsible for his actions unless proven otherwise and I've always stressed that Cops that do "bad" things should be hammered down.

Thanks Sinatra. I for one an more than happy to be called your friend.

[Dash Riprock]

I just put in my two cents, sorry if I ruffled you guys. It wasn't intended to do that.

BTW: What did happen with that Grand Theft case you had? Was the guy charged and convicted for Petty or Grand Larceny?

I didn't keep up with it once it left the mall, but a day or 2 later the dispatcher called me and asked me some questions and said the sheriff's dept was there poking around and asked for my SS#.

I just figured it was that one guy trying make me nervous. I've never heard anything else beyond that. I actually quit that job shortly after for a better paying gig.

I'm pretty sure though that he was charged for everything they padded on him and did some hard time in an already over crowded prison at tax payers expense.

[Sinatra877]

Thanks Sinatra. I for one an more than happy to be called your friend.

You know how I feel about LEO work. I treasured it but God had different ideas for my future. Like I said, I look at the stranger cases with more scrutiny and try to imagine or see both sides of the story. Maybe that Cop has a case, maybe he doesn't. If it turns out that he doesn't, I'm sure he or his Department will be sued in a civil court for damages. I'll be curious too see what transpires next.