Hitlery Clinton wants to ban smoking in ALL public places!!!

[jkroner659]

She want's to ban smoking in all public places, this is a recent thing...

Say you own a bar, or a restaurant, she wants to pass a law that strips you of your rights on your own property...she is fucking crazy. It's one thing to ban smoking in federal public places, but on your own property? Everyone can agree smoking is bad for you, but that does not mean she can tell you that you can't let people smoke on your own property or place of business, it's total authoritarianism and she is evil. She wants to impose her opinions on your rights to do what you want on your own property, next she will ban all guns...this woman is just out of her fucking mind, she forgot this is America and people have rights/choices. This is more than smoking, it's the fact that she wants to run the country her way, it's unreal...that's all for now, pisses me off she even considers this a good thing for America:pissed:

[ksuchewie]

Jk,
I disagree with you on this one. People should have the ability to walk down the street, go into a store/restraunt/bar, and not have to worry about breathing in someone else's 2nd hand smoke, causing them cancer.
To me, it comes down to someone's "pleasure of smoking vs. ability to live longer"

[Dash Riprock]

First and foremost I'd rather see Hilary Clinton banned than smoking. Her damage will be far longer lasting than anyhting smoking can do.

I believe people should be able to do to their body what they want. In the end it's between each individual and God... Not some dumbass politician.

On the other hand I believe people should have the right to breathe fresh air too nd that pretty much takes importance over those who want to pollute it.

As much as I have come to hate cigarettes I would never support a smoking ban. The reason being is it wouldn't end there. Before long all tobacco products would be illegal and that would give the government one more reason to make criminals out of normal people.

[jkroner659]

Like I said we all can agree smoking is not good for you. But this is more than just smoking, she wants to tell you that your customer's are banned by law to smoke on your property...that is just insane. We are not even talking about walking down the street smoking(which is just as stupid anyway), we are talking about her, telling you that you and your customers cannot smoke on your property if your a business owner...it's so Hitler it's not even funny.

If Ksuchewie, you wanted to go to a smoke free bar, then by all means stay out of "The Monkey's Watering Hole Pub:p" and go to "Victoria's bar/grill" that is smoke free. Because in a free market place, if there is a demand, business owners will see that and respond. We already have smoke free bars that are smoke free by choice of the owner, not a federal mandated law. That's why we don't need the law, because it is not necessary in a free market place.

[KPierce]

Well I can agree that smoking bothers non smokers. Yet one of the largest Carcinogen creaters is a lawn mower and weed eater. Now I don't own either as I live in an apartment and yet I have no right to tell anyone they can't use one. Also I maintain my car well, but I can't tell someone who drives an oil burning smoke machine they can't drive.

The truth of the matter is this.

You go to any heavily populated, low industrial country on the planet and you will find smokers who rarely ever have a cancer problem. Cancer is caused by more than just smoking. In this country we eat food everday that is full of artificial colors, flavors, sweetners, perservatives. We have high power electrical lines everywhere. Until the industrial revolution took place in this country, cancer was practicly unheard of, and yet people were smoking. For anyone to point at cigerettes as the cancer causer is only deluding themselves. If you looked at everything that contributes to or causes cancer and removed them all, our current way of life would come to an end.

I have no problem if someplace wants to be a smoke free facility, that is fine by me. What I don't like are all the people who want to tell me what I can or can not do and where I can do it.

And it's true that a lot of people dislike smoking. That is what is enabling the goverment to begin to do away with our rights. Banning smoking isn't as much about health as it is about gaining support from the people to remove a right that people should be free to exercise. And before someone says that this is complete BS, think about this.

What if I set up a private club. Charged a yearly membership fee and in order for you to even become a member, you had to be a smoker. As a member you would be allowed to bring a freind in with you, but they would also have to be a smoker or they wouldn't be let in. I can guarentee that rather then everyone saying, great smokers have their own place now, people would be crying fowl, and that my club discriminates against people who don't smoke. And I am sure in no short order I would be closed down.

Now how fair does this make things, and how right would it be ? It's just like listening to the radio. I love the Bob and Tom Show, but because people complained that they didn't like the stuff that was said on the show, the FCC basicly cracked it's whip and brought in more stringent censorship. If you don't like what's playing on the radio, then turn the station. Why do people feel the need to ruin for everyone because they have a problem. This is the same with smoking. While I can concede that smoking out in public could be curbed, if I am inside a building that has the proper ventilation system to deal with it, why am I not allowed to smoke ?

The main point of all of this is this. Smoking is just the first thing to come down the pike that some of the people do support. And that blind support is in turn being used to remove a fundamental right in the country as stated in the Bill of Rights when it says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

So be careful what you wish for, just you may get exactly that. And once smoking has been completely banned, just hink of all the other things that some people don't like and you start seeing the bigger picture of what is really at stake here.

[DSMITH]

First off i WAS a smoker ...2 packs a day for 25 years ,
smoke free since march of this year .
2nd hand smoke does bother me ...but i work in it .
I have a problem with ban's PERIOD .
first ya ban smoking ....then ya ban the people with to much perfum or colonge ... ( after all a cloud is a cloud )
then ya ban this person for that ....and that person for this ....
Get what im driving at ?
if you alow one ban then the bleeding heart liberal fucks that do all this what to start banning everything else ..
KINDA LIKE WHAT ALL US GUN OWNWERS FIGHT EVERYDAY.....:banghead::hoppinmad:
so i say if the us government wants to put a ban on something ...put a ban on theese idiots right to try to ban shit ..
but thats just my opinion ...and most time im right ...just ask me :lol:

[Dash Riprock]

This guys sums it up pretty well I think. :D

http://www.theguyfromboston.com/playvideo2.asp?video=6BvNv7IkF3I

[ksuchewie]

if you alow one ban then the bleeding heart liberal fucks that do all this

EASY now.....

[whompuss]

Virtually all buildings in Georgia have been smoke free for a couple of years. Caused a lot of folks to quit, especially if you work on the twenty eleventh story of a building. No way to get a puff on a 15 minute break. Then you can't smoke in any place that serves food, so no smoke at lunch.
About the only smokers are the blue collar trade guys, carpenters, etc.
It's even illegal to smoke in a vehicle with a small child.
Everyone seems to have gotten used to it. It's going to save a lot of lives.

I was a smoker for 20 years, 3 packs a day. Quiting was the hardest thing I ever did. I really identify with those addicted. Like my first wife, died of cancer at 62. The last few weeks were filled with unbearable pain.

[jtkratzer]

There are number of smoking bans in place around the country. Philadelphia is/was pushing for one, Hartford, CT already has one...I have friends that live there. It's so nice to got out, throw some darts, have some beers, and not smell like an ash tray when I get home.

[jtkratzer]

I think if you're going to be a smoker, just like your premiums are higher on you insurance, they should be higher on your Medicare taxes as well. You're going to cost more for the system to cover your healthcare and you should be responsible for that since you're making the choice to be a smoker. I'm tired of paying for other people's decisions and mistakes.

[preceptor]

the premiums are higher for smokers.

i have mixed feeling about this issue. i used to smoke. yes since the ban it is nice to go to a bar and not smell like smoke afterwards. but i think restaurants should still be allowed to have a smoking section like it was before just as long as it it completely separated from the non smoking section. That would have made things easier for the town. we have had businesses shut down because half or more of their clientell left and drive out of town to go to bars clubs or restaurants. and it wasn't voted on. 6 council members made up of 2 men and 4 women. all the women voted for it the men did not so it passed. no vote by the citizens of the city. where was proper representation. its the first time i have actually noticed the council doing anything because it was kept hush hush. no one knew that the city was considering it. Its scary how much control local gov can have.

now as far as hillary is concerned.. its a local matter and she needs to worry about bigger things like being honest and taking care of her responsibilities in her state.