McCain's VP pick

[Dash Riprock]

I ahve to say I was worried he'd pick Joe Leiberman as the news has been speculating, which would have been all out stupid, but it appears he's picked a woman.

Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, is his pick.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25970882/from/ET/

Very interesting pick, but so far I like it!

[RocketFoot]

I'm excited! Sarah Palin is a lifelong NRA member, she hunts and fishes, and she appears to be very gun friendly! I think McCain done good!

[TcRoc]

MMM ,, this may bite him in the ass,,, the controversary will also swale that she doesn't have the expeirance to be president if something were to happen to McCain ,,I don't know but this may have been a bad choice.
And does anybody know who she is ???

He did this for a reason,not so much for her genius,,,Obama didn't pick the female,,so they thougght up,,let's pick a female to try and help our run..

Again I don't know who she is so ,,take my comments with a grain of salt

[TcRoc]

popped on the Tv and there already saying this is a way to try and sway Hillary voters over,,
That didnt 'take long ,, hopefully it was a good move.

[Dash Riprock]

She has more experience in politics and being an America than Obama ever will.

[TcRoc]

Point made I'm just curious hows he's gonn'a play his cards now (McCain)..
Democraps will pin point if she has the nuts to run the country if something were to happen to McCain,,,if most don't know this chick it may sway them to vote differantly knowing the health and age of Mccain is a worry to alot

[SheNINE]

This is awesome, awesome, awesome!!!! I love her and think she is a perfect pick....


This is Sarah Palin in a nutshell (from another forum):

She's conservative.

She adds youth and excitement to McCain's campaign.

She draws women voters. Hopefully some Hillary voters will move over to McCain/Palin

Demonstrates that the republican party supports equal rights for women, which has been a talking point for Obama.

This pick reinforces McCain maverick image. Palin is also a Maverick.

Her husband is a native Eskimo and is a champion snowmobiler.

She is mother of 5, and has a child with Down Syndrome (which she openly chose not to abort). In touch with the needs of the family.

Her son enlisted in the Army last year and ships out to Iraq in Sept.

She is an Washington OUTSIDER.

Lifetime NRA member and avid hunter. Very pro 2nd amendment

Challenged the ethics of her own party members.

80%+ approval rating from Alaskans

Has executive experience.


I think she is beautiful, graceful and elegant. A TRUE lady................

[TcRoc]

God opening speech for a person in that limelight for the 1st time,,she came across as a very strong person

[SheNINE]

I heard that Alaskans say she's tough as nails!

[Vokell]

I just spoke with my brother in law, they live in Anchorage. Everyone up there is excited, he says that she is no nonsense, tough as nails and runs the state like a tight ship. Also, he says that even the democrats give her credit for running things well. I watched the announcement, she did a good first job.

[jkroner659]

Surprising pick, of course I would have wanted Ron Paul but McCain would never allow that, they have different views of how the country should be ran. I'm still not exited by our 2 choices here, but it appears McCain made a pretty smart move by picking her, however I never heard of her.

[Dash Riprock]

I never heard of Obama either. :lol:

On Ron Paul though, he said he wouldn't take any offers to be VP a long time ago.

[SheNINE]

I never heard of Obama either. :lol:


Exactly!!! I love the way the democraps are now coming out and saying that she's inexperienced............. http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=150388FjkwT&i=9113 I'm LMFAO!!!

[Dash Riprock]

Does that surprise you? :lol.: They're all idiots, every single last one of them.

[PACO2]

She has more experience in politics and being an America than Obama ever will.

:happy::toofunny::toofunny: you say the funniest things ROFLMAO

[jkroner659]

I'd bang her...:laugh:

[SheNINE]

I'd bang her...:laugh:


You'd bang anything................. :truecon:

[jtkratzer]

This is a grand slam for McCain. He's going to nab the Hillary supporters since they were snubbed by the ass party, he's getting a good conservative, he's getting someone with executive experience and someone who has fought against corruption and bad spending. She's a fantastic pick. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see her run for President in 2012 if McCain doesn't seek a second term with Michael Steele as her VP.

[DSMITH]

Good way to get billary's votes

[ksuchewie]

It's either going to work for him, or bite him in the ass.


I'm not sure a 2 yr governor or 2 term mayor of a po-dunk town has the experience to fill the shoes of President if McCain kicks the bucket while in office. BIG differences between running one of the smallest cities & states in the country, versus the entire country.

let's hope it works out for McCain.

[PACO2]

i did not know that she was Mexican... she has five kids and a pregnant teenager daughter :happy::happy::laugh::toofunny::toofunny:

[jtkratzer]

This is absurd, the CNN morons are in full force. Why the f*ck did I have to hear Paul Begala say a single word about the RNC? He is an absolute idiot...same guy who predicted 56,000,000 Americans will die in the streets because of a lack/denial of healthcare if McCain is elected. Such a douche bag.

[jtkratzer]

The idiots are also out here saying McCain picked Palin because he was trailing in the polls. These people must think we're absolute retards.

[jtkratzer]

Please tell me I wasn't the only one who saw the Palin's youngest daughter give her own hand a big lick and then use that spit to slick down her baby brother's hair...it was priceless.

[jtkratzer]

She is nailing this speech and looking good too.

[Dash Riprock]

Yup, she's slapped Obama several times... Ouch! Truth hurts like a mutha! :D

[jtkratzer]

There is only one man running for President who has fought for you, and that's John McCain.

[jtkratzer]

How will the American people not fall in love with this woman?

[TcRoc]

Awesome speech,,very well delivered.

[Avalanche3319]

Great speech, great pick for VP.

[jtkratzer]

I'm new to watching the nomination process, what's with the states passing?

[Dash Riprock]

Not sure... Lots of passes though.

[jtkratzer]

Not sure... Lots of passes though.

They're just letting Arizona cast the votes that put him over the top for the nomination.

[Dash Riprock]

Would have sucked if he didn't get the nomination. :lol:

[Dash Riprock]

This is the first convention I've ever seen. Pretty interesting to say the least.

[ksuchewie]

I only watched 5 minutes of her speech. I was pretty disapointed with what I saw, because all I saw was a bunch of quick witty one-liner attacks on democrats/obama... nothing as far a policies or what she's going to bring to the table, etc...

Sounded like the speech was writen by the same people who write for Bush, and tailored it for the women voters of Hillary to swing them.

[TcRoc]

Hello..... you said you only listened to 5 minutes,,,I guess Obama delivered his whole speech in 5 minutes or are you a mind reader??

[ksuchewie]

I guess Obama delivered his whole speech in 5 minutes or are you a mind reader??

No, but I don't remember Obama going on a 5 minute shit talking tangent.

[TcRoc]

So I guess in is whole speech he said nothing about republicans,,she made very good points through out her speech and she went for the jugular,,your party will have their turn again in the debates than you can come back and state your praise about their intelligence and how perfect they are,, I personally can't wait til OCT 2 when she debates Biden,,she'll be prepped as will he but they will both have to stand their own ground differantly than just making a speech,,I feel she'll chew him up and spit him out which I'm sure you'll come up with a reason not to like,it's just you defending your party which we understand,,we feel for ya.:lol::p

[Dash Riprock]

Gotta defend that home team. For someone claiming to not support NObama you sure like defending the POS.

[ksuchewie]

All I'm saying is I need some substance in a speech, not just another attack dog like Cheney. She has a lot of work ahead of her to get the swing voters, because she was speaking to a crowd that already like her. I've read through most of the speech transcript, and she seemed to have skipped one of the biggest issues, the economy. She also has no international experience, which is another issue to face.

[SheNINE]

I was pretty disapointed with what I saw.


We would've expected nothing less.............

[TcRoc]

Aaaaa,, While speaking about taxes,energy,war she was speaking about the economy,,must read between the lines because many referances were about our economy,,,speaking about Gov't spending and cuts also has to do with the economy.
When speaking about putting Americans to work is about the economy,,I'm guessing you just need to hear the word?

[jtkratzer]

I only watched 5 minutes of her speech. I was pretty disapointed with what I saw, because all I saw was a bunch of quick witty one-liner attacks on democrats/obama... nothing as far a policies or what she's going to bring to the table, etc...

Sounded like the speech was writen by the same people who write for Bush, and tailored it for the women voters of Hillary to swing them.

I read the inside cover and the backside of this book, you should read it, but let me warn you, the whole book sucks. I was disappointed.

[jtkratzer]

All I'm saying is I need some substance in a speech, not just another attack dog like Cheney. She has a lot of work ahead of her to get the swing voters, because she was speaking to a crowd that already like her. I've read through most of the speech transcript, and she seemed to have skipped one of the biggest issues, the economy. She also has no international experience, which is another issue to face.

Are you kidding me? Seriously, you're wasted off your ass on the Koolaid. You soak up this stuff the media is feeding you.

C'mon, she smashed that one out of the park. If you listened to the entire speech, she stuck with what she knew...energy, big oil, reduction in wasteful government spending, etc. etc. etc.

One thing you and your clueless leftist supporters need to realize...this was more than just a speech, it was her introduction to the American people. A week ago, more than 80% of people had never heard of her or had heard very, very little.

She smashed this speech and the left is in a world of trouble. America is falling in love with this woman and she crushed it. She fought right back against the ridiculous attacks the media has been flinging her way all week since her announcement as VP.

She will destroy Biden. This lady can take it and dish it back. The problem the left has is they think this woman is an idiot because she was a sportscaster and her degree is only from the University of Idaho...it's not a Harvard law degree. They're completely underestimating this woman. Her and McCain will be the undoing of the Democratic party. You watch.

[jkroner659]

Who really takes what any politician says to heart anyways(most Americans it seems:shakehead:)? These people are not allowed to tell the truth, if they did, they would most likely not get elected. Politics is a fucking game rich people play in this country, that's all it is. Bush in 2000 campaigned in a non intervention plan which did not include nation building, going to war unprovoked etc, and we all see how honest he was:shakehead:. I beleive the only honest politician who was running this year was Ron Paul, that's it. So you guys can pick you "team" and defend them if you want, but you should know by now that these people say whatever it is they feel people want to hear, and when in office they do as they want.

[ksuchewie]

Who really takes what any politician says to heart anyways(most Americans it seems:shakehead:)?

apparently jtkratzer does. He and the rest of America is "falling in love with her".

[TcRoc]

Jaosn if you say Ron Paul one more time I'm gonn'a stamp a picture of him to your forhead next time I see you:lol:;)

[TcRoc]

apparently jtkratzer does. He and the rest of America is "falling in love with her".

Apparently you do to the way you rant on:lol:

I'm falling in love with her ,,,the thought of ...oh forget it:lol:

[SheNINE]

Jaosn if you say Ron Paul one more time I'm gonn'a stamp a picture of him to your forhead next time I see you:lol:;)


Do one for me!!! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0037.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/freesmiley.php?smiley=mad/mad0037.gif)

[ksuchewie]

Are you kidding me? Seriously, you're wasted off your ass on the Koolaid.

America is falling in love with this woman and she crushed it. She fought right back against the ridiculous attacks the media has been flinging her way all week since her announcement as VP.

America still hardly knows Palin from a can of paint. We haven't heard of her until a week ago. All the sudden you and the majority of republicans are supporting her 100%.....and you say I'm drinking Koolaid? You are the epitome of a blind party supporter.

Ridiculous attacks? Saying she's been a governor for only 2 years, has no international experience, has ties to big oil.....I hardly see that as ridiculous. So it's okay for people to attack obama for having 8 years experience in the senate, but not ok to question a 2-year governor?

[ksuchewie]

I'm falling in love with her ,,,the thought of ...oh forget it:lol:

yeah... I'd hit it too. http://www.kcsr.org/images/smiles/bentoverbanana.gif

[jtkratzer]

Who really takes what any politician says to heart anyways(most Americans it seems:shakehead:)? These people are not allowed to tell the truth, if they did, they would most likely not get elected. Politics is a fucking game rich people play in this country, that's all it is. Bush in 2000 campaigned in a non intervention plan which did not include nation building, going to war unprovoked etc, and we all see how honest he was:shakehead:. I beleive the only honest politician who was running this year was Ron Paul, that's it. So you guys can pick you "team" and defend them if you want, but you should know by now that these people say whatever it is they feel people want to hear, and when in office they do as they want.

So, 9/11 wasn't a provocation to fight terror, wherever it was. I don't agree with everything he did, but George W. Bush had the toughest 8 years in office to deal with back to the Cold War. I think he's done a damn good job with what he had to work with.

I don't see Palin as a rich person playing a game. Is she even considered rich? I don't see it as a game to her.

apparently jtkratzer does. He and the rest of America is "falling in love with her".

I believe the proof is in the pudding with this woman. Read her record and what's she's done. She's challenged corruption in her own party in Alaska. She resigned from a commission because of it. She started at the lowest level of community involvement in PTA meetings and youth sports.

She has cut spending by over half of a billion dollars. Who sells the governor's jet on eBay and fires the governor's chef because she thinks it's wasteful spending? She doesn't fly business or first class. She flies coach, on commercial jets. This lady lives what she speaks.

She's the farthest thing politically (and geographically) from the Beltway politicians. She isn't in bed with the lobbyists or interest groups.

We'll see how things play out, but this woman comes across as honest and telling you how it really is.

[jtkratzer]

America still hardly knows Palin from a can of paint. We haven't heard of her until a week ago. All the sudden you and the majority of republicans are supporting her 100%.....and you say I'm drinking Koolaid? You are the epitome of a blind party supporter.

Ridiculous attacks? Saying she's been a governor for only 2 years, has no international experience, has ties to big oil.....I hardly see that as ridiculous. So it's okay for people to attack obama for having 8 years experience in the senate, but not ok to question a 2-year governor?

You might not have heard of her until a week ago. I've been hearing about her for several months.

Blind party supporter? I can critique both. I'm not even a republican. I can't stand where the party was going prior to Palin being picked.

Ties to big oil? She's increased taxes on them and worked on regulations with them. She ended corruption in the oil/energy industry in her own party in her own state.

Obama doesn't have 8 years experience. He may have the title of being a senator, but he's been on the campaign trail for 2 years. When he shows up for work, he votes present more often than not. That's not experience. He has no leadership experience. He doesn't make tough decisions on votes. He's never had any responsibility to lead or be in charge of anything. He has no foreign policy experience. He has nothing but a skin color and a suit.

Remember, Alaska and Delaware have roughly the same population. Their median incomes are roughly the same.

Remember, Palin is running for the VICE PRESIDENT.

Obama is running for PRESIDENT.

There is a difference.

[PACO2]

I saw the speech it was good, she made some good points, i want to see her on the debates, i really think this lady is going to hurt McCain she is good but i dont think she is ready. but only time would tell...at least i need more time :Peace!:

[jtkratzer]

I saw the speech it was good, she made some good points, i want to see her on the debates, i really think this lady is going to hurt McCain she is good but i dont think she is ready. but only time would tell...at least i need more time :Peace!:

Explain why she's not ready. What would make her incapable of being the VP and performing that job? How will she hurt McCain?

Have you considered that a lot of people who were luke warm or not interested in McCain at all are not pumped about the ticket? Have you not heard that there are countless Hillary supporters who were going to stay home on election day who are going to vote because of Sarah Palin?

I firmly believe Palin can do nothing but help McCain and will more than likely be the factor that puts him over the top and helps him win the White House.

[TcRoc]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/tcroc/ilwttig.jpg

[jkroner659]

So, 9/11 wasn't a provocation to fight terror, wherever it was. I don't agree with everything he did, but George W. Bush had the toughest 8 years in office to deal with back to the Cold War. I think he's done a damn good job with what he had to work with.

I don't see Palin as a rich person playing a game. Is she even considered rich? I don't see it as a game to her.


No, 9/11 was an attack from religious wacko's who wanted to die and go meet their 77 fat ugly virgins in heaven, Iraq had no connection, absolutely none. Also, instead of going 100% after the people who attacked us, we went after Iraq...none of the hijackers were from Iraq. Palin was, I'm sure surprised she was picked, in my eyes it was a political move to get woman voters by McCain's camp, that said, I think she was a good pick because of her lack of her political career, she did not make a career out of BS that I am aware of, I like her but won't support McCain just because she is now on his administration. I won't vote for Obama or McCain, neither one is a good pick for our country imo, and I don't hop on a political party bandwagon and support one party over another, I vote for the individual person/views, but I am sadly a minority in how I think about politics, I don't treat it as a football game like so many Americans do.

[jkroner659]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/tcroc/ilwttig.jpg

:lol:

[TcRoc]

But wouldn't it suck if you were the 1 vote to get McCain,,,, I was in the same boat JASON ,,but do you want Obama or McCain in office,,thats the choice,,Look at is as casting a vote so Obama doesn't get office if you must....

And don't go say Ron Paul was spot on with all your beliefs,,,,Ron Paul believes in God.... gottcha mofo,,lol

[jkroner659]

Ya I understand that, but I find it hard to go against what I believe, in that a person should only vote for someone who they actually like and support, and I don't agree with either one on many issues, a certain unspoken man is the only person who I agreed with.

[TcRoc]

Jason did you catch what I added in my last post,,,lol

[jkroner659]

Jason did you catch what I added in my last post,,,lol

LOL, bastard got me:lol:. Either way, I am not gonna put a McCain banner in my signiture:poke::lol:

[TcRoc]

I can do it for you if you want ,,lol,,I noticed you caught onto monkey butt in your Sig.

[jtkratzer]

Ya I understand that, but I find it hard to go against what I believe, in that a person should only vote for someone who they actually like and support, and I don't agree with either one on many issues, a certain unspoken man is the only person who I agreed with.

Ok, so specifically, what do you disagree with McCain on all these issues? Just clarify for me...

Do you really agree with Ron Paul's view that we should basically practice isolationism from the rest of the world? That didn't work in WWII...

No, 9/11 was an attack from religious wacko's who wanted to die and go meet their 77 fat ugly virgins in heaven, Iraq had no connection, absolutely none. Also, instead of going 100% after the people who attacked us, we went after Iraq...none of the hijackers were from Iraq. Palin was, I'm sure surprised she was picked, in my eyes it was a political move to get woman voters by McCain's camp, that said, I think she was a good pick because of her lack of her political career, she did not make a career out of BS that I am aware of, I like her but won't support McCain just because she is now on his administration. I won't vote for Obama or McCain, neither one is a good pick for our country imo, and I don't hop on a political party bandwagon and support one party over another, I vote for the individual person/views, but I am sadly a minority in how I think about politics, I don't treat it as a football game like so many Americans do.

There have been terrorist groups operating out of Iraq as well. This wasn't a revenge scheme to just go after those involved. Remember, this was the Global War on Terror. If we eliminate terror in the Middle East, I say move on to the Pacific Southwest. I have no problems dealing harshly with those who harbor, support, and supply terrorists whether they were involved in 9/11 or not. If they're a threat to the lives of civilians based only on their crazy militant religious views, I want them all annihilated.

[TcRoc]

LOL, bastard got me:lol:.:


Hell yah I got you,,,and he is one of those quote ,,"seem like really intellegant people"

so he must be a dumbass after all:lol:


Now go repent bitch:lol:

[jkroner659]

I'll respond to both of you when I get off of work, don't take my lack of response for the next few hours as a sign of defeat:lol:.

[TcRoc]

I'll respond to both of you when I get off of work, don't take my lack of response for the next few hours as a sign of defeat:lol:.


:lol::lol::crossbones:

[jtkratzer]

I'll respond to both of you when I get off of work, don't take my lack of response for the next few hours as a sign of defeat:lol:.

Don't let w**k get in the way of your internet post whoring. This is serious.

[Dash Riprock]

:lol: nutty bastids, all of yas. :D

[TcRoc]

Don't let w**k get in the way of your internet post whoring. This is serious.

Kinda hard for him to post if he's driving down the road Jt,,you can attack him later..lol

[ksuchewie]

some fact checking on yahoo.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

[SheNINE]

And don't go say Ron Paul was spot on with all your beliefs,,,,Ron Paul believes in God.... gottcha mofo,,lol


ROFLMFAO...... That was funny!!!

http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=150388FjkwT&i=9242

[jtkratzer]

some fact checking on yahoo.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

Right back at you:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html

[jtkratzer]

What was President Bush's job before becoming president? Governor of Texas, right? What was Bill Clinton's job before becoming president? Governor of Arkansas, right? Did anyone question them on their qualifications and experience before we elected them? Did anyone question their ability to be President and raise children at the same time? Interesting...

Also, the numbers are out...Sarah Palin drew just 1.2 million viewers fewer than Obama did. Interesting, but you should also know that Obama's speech was carried on 10 networks. Palin's...only 6. Where is the Fairness Doctrine now?

[jtkratzer]

some fact checking on yahoo.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

If that's the best you can do, you should be sh*tting bricks and wetting your pants.

[jtkratzer]

Read this post: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/413957-post-340.html

[jkroner659]

Ok, so specifically, what do you disagree with McCain on all these issues? Just clarify for me...

Do you really agree with Ron Paul's view that we should basically practice isolationism from the rest of the world? That didn't work in WWII...



There have been terrorist groups operating out of Iraq as well. This wasn't a revenge scheme to just go after those involved. Remember, this was the Global War on Terror. If we eliminate terror in the Middle East, I say move on to the Pacific Southwest. I have no problems dealing harshly with those who harbor, support, and supply terrorists whether they were involved in 9/11 or not. If they're a threat to the lives of civilians based only on their crazy militant religious views, I want them all annihilated.

Ron Paul did not want isolationism, don't twist the truth. He said he did not want to mingle in other country's affairs militarily(but he wanted to trade obviously and work out our problems with words, not F16's)(However I understand some countires/people just need to be fucking bombed because talking with them won't work(like Alquieda)(ya, spelling, I know, who cares about spelling their dumbass name right:lol:), meaning between the Russia/Geogia thing, he would have just talked to both of them, he is against sending troops everywhere in the world to defend our empire(oil and other resources/property).

Oh damn, I was gonna ask you, if you were in favor of going into North Korea, then Pakistan, then Turkey, then etc., after we get out of Iraq in this "war on terror" trying to bait you into saying yes...but damn, I don't even have to:lol:. Well I used to beleive like you that way years ago, but then something happened, I realized how special(no religious overtones at all;)) life is, and you better be damn sure the war is justified before you go sending young men/women somewhere to fight. You know when a war is justified? When you are willing to send your kids to another country to fight, that's when a war is justified. Don't get all hyped up and send someone else's kids somewhere to possibly die, make sure if you had a son or daughter that you would tell them, "go fight for this cause, I would if I was your age" or something to that effect.

Don't let w**k get in the way of your internet post whoring. This is serious.

Oh, sorry...maybe you are counting the posts that I talk about how many miles I ran today and what vegan meal I prepared today:kickrock::toofunny:(sorry, had to bro:limp:)

[jtkratzer]

Ron Paul did not want isolationism, don't twist the truth.

I wasn't twisting the truth. I was speaking about our military.

He said he did not want to mingle in other country's affairs militarily(but he wanted to trade obviously and work out our problems with words, not F16's)(However I understand some countires/people just need to be fucking bombed because talking with them won't work(like Alquieda)(ya, spelling, I know, who cares about spelling their dumbass name right:lol:),

Right, isolationism isn't the complete shutdown from the world around us. We were trading with other countries and sending supplies to the Allies in WWII before we entered the war.

As you said, words are not enough. It wasn't enough with Iraq. It's not enough with some other countries/organizations as well.

meaning between the Russia/Geogia thing, he would have just talked to both of them, he is against sending troops everywhere in the world to defend our empire(oil and other resources/property).

We didn't send troops there. We didn't send military supplies there. We didn't send equipment. We talked about it and made our position known.

Oh damn, I was gonna ask you, if you were in favor of going into North Korea, then Pakistan, then Turkey, then etc., after we get out of Iraq in this "war on terror" trying to bait you into saying yes...but damn, I don't even have to:lol:. Well I used to beleive like you that way years ago, but then something happened, I realized how special(no religious overtones at all;)) life is, and you better be damn sure the war is justified before you go sending young men/women somewhere to fight. You know when a war is justified? When you are willing to send your kids to another country to fight, that's when a war is justified. Don't get all hyped up and send someone else's kids somewhere to possibly die, make sure if you had a son or daughter that you would tell them, "go fight for this cause, I would if I was your age" or something to that effect.

How about sending yourself to the war to fight? Is that good enough for you?

I'm all for doing a job no one else the world over is willing to do. We will be looked at in a bad light for doing the things we're doing, but when we put an end to terrorism, or the rest of the world wakes up and joins us to put an end to this sh*t, they'll be thanking us the same way they do for stopping Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and the general spread of Communism.

Oh, sorry...maybe you are counting the posts that I talk about how many miles I ran today and what vegan meal I prepared today:kickrock::toofunny:(sorry, had to bro:limp:)

Perhaps you should read up on what a vegan is. Tuna and chicken aren't in a vegan's diet, neither is milk and most of the other stuff I eat/drink. I know you're joking around, but c'mon, giving me a hard time because I eat right and take care of myself...really, you can do better than that.

[ksuchewie]

What was President Bush's job before becoming president? Governor of Texas, right? What was Bill Clinton's job before becoming president? Governor of Arkansas, right? Did anyone question them on their qualifications and experience before we elected them? Did anyone question their ability to be President and raise children at the same time? Interesting...

Also, the numbers are out...Sarah Palin drew just 1.2 million viewers fewer than Obama did. Interesting, but you should also know that Obama's speech was carried on 10 networks. Palin's...only 6. Where is the Fairness Doctrine now?

Bush: 5 years governor of Texas. 2nd biggest state in country. 2 children(18 at time of election)
Clinton: 11 years governor of Arkansas. 23rd biggest state in country. 1 child (12 at time of election)
Pailin: 2 years governor of Alaska...3rd smallest state in the country. 5 children. (18,17,13,7,4 months)

Everyone has questions everyone's experience in the past...I'm not sure what point you're making. People still question Obama's experience saying he's not ready either.

I don't know anyone here questioning her ability to raise her children and be V.P at the same time, just like no one is question Obama to raise his children. But, as far as being governor, I'd say the differences are quite noticeable.

I would assume Palin would drive quite a few viewers because many (including myself) have not heard of her, or from her before. People have been hearing about/from Obama & Biden for over a year.

[jtkratzer]

Bush: 5 years governor of Texas. 2nd biggest state in country. 2 children(18 at time of election)
Clinton: 11 years governor of Arkansas. 23rd biggest state in country. 1 child (12 at time of election)
Pailin: 2 years governor of Alaska...3rd smallest state in the country. 5 children. (18,17,13,7,4 months)

Everyone has questions everyone's experience in the past...I'm not sure what point you're making. People still question Obama's experience saying he's not ready either.

I don't know anyone here questioning her ability to raise her children and be V.P at the same time, just like no one is question Obama to raise his children. But, as far as being governor, I'd say the differences are quite noticeable.

I would assume Palin would drive quite a few viewers because many (including myself) have not heard of her, or from her before. People have been hearing about/from Obama & Biden for over a year.

No one here is questioning her ability. The leftist media is. They're saying she's out of line and sacrificing her family for her own political gain. It's the hypocrisy of the media.

You're exactly right, not a single person here or in the media has questioned the Obamessiahs if they can raise their children while in office.

The differences? How about Palin did things as governor that neither Bush nor Clinton did in taking on their own party, taking on corruption, and cutting spending the way she did. Bush and Clinton didn't get rid of their chefs or their corporate jets. Neither of them flew coach.

Obama has basically been a career carpet bagger. He only fights like crazy to get these positions in an effort to use them as a spring board to the next position. He never stays in any one office long enough to do anything other than pad his resume with a title. He has accomplished nothing other than organizing community block parties and cookouts.

Palin on the other hand....

[ksuchewie]

Palin on the other hand....

I haven't done much research, but isn't she currently under investigation for abusing her power to fire a state trooper?

[jtkratzer]

I haven't done much research, but isn't she currently under investigation for abusing her power to fire a state trooper?

Only by the media, but if you do your research, you'll find that she pressured the trooper's boss to fire him because he was abusive to his wife, used a taser on his 12 year old step son, threatened to murder the wife and her father if he hired a lawyer for his daughter, he poached a moose cow, and was also caught drinking on the job in his cruiser.

He was given a 10-day suspension and the union got it reduced to 5 days. That's when Palin stepped in.

But none of that matters, it's certainly not the responsible and respectable thing to do, it's naturally an abuse of power. :shakehead:


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention he's been married and divorced 4 times...

[ksuchewie]

From what I've found so far is that an Alaskan Senator is running the investigation, and the McCain camp is trying to stall it...

**confused** I'll just wait a couple days until more is revealed. These are the kinds of things I was worried about because nobody really knows her or her background yet. Hopefully it doesn't damage their ticket.

can you give me some links where you're getting that info?

[Dash Riprock]

I know more about her in the week she's been in the spotlight than I know about NObama in the 2 years the POS has been forced into my home and life.

[jkroner659]

It's very easy fellas, say fuck em both, don't vote for either one of them, and be sad that Ron Paul does not have a chance anymore...I have all the answers:lol:

[jtkratzer]

From what I've found so far is that an Alaskan Senator is running the investigation, and the McCain camp is trying to stall it...

**confused** I'll just wait a couple days until more is revealed. These are the kinds of things I was worried about because nobody really knows her or her background yet. Hopefully it doesn't damage their ticket.

can you give me some links where you're getting that info?

Most of it was heard on a radio report. Here is web article that is probably in support of tearing Palin apart as they don't list any of the 5 charges that were brought against Wooten (ex BIL). I think using a taser on a 12 year old, drinking on the job, threatening to kill people, and poaching are all offenses in themselves that should get a police officer fired. But when you add all this up and he was only suspended for 5 days...I'd be using my position to get the guy canned, too. This guy doesn't deserve to be wearing a badge for any police department.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211769.php

[jtkratzer]

The trouble between Wooten and the governor’s sister broke into the open after an alleged incident in February 2005. Palin told an internal affairs investigator that she overheard on a speakerphone [trooper Michael] Wooten arguing with her sister and threatening to kill their father. Fearful for her family members’ lives, Palin said she drove to her sister’s house and watched the argument through a window.

“Wooten’s words were, ‘I will kill him. He’ll eat a [expletive] lead bullet, I’ll shoot him,’ if our father got the attorney to help Molly,” Palin said in an e-mail she wrote in August 2005 to the chief of the state police. “I heard this death threat, my 16-year-old son heard it (Track Palin), Molly heard it, as did their small children. Wooten spoke with his Trooper gun on his hip in an extremely intimidating fashion, leaving no doubt he is serious about taking someone’s life who disagrees with him.”

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/08/31/the_story_of_sara_palin_and_he.html?cxntfid=blogs_ political_insider

[jtkratzer]

It's very easy fellas, say fuck em both, don't vote for either one of them, and be sad that Ron Paul does not have a chance anymore...I have all the answers:lol:

Would you shut up with the Ron Paul stuff? ;) It ain't happening this year. I really like Palin. I'm not thrilled with McCain, but I do like Palin.

[jtkratzer]

Where do you think all this is coming from?

A Palin political rival, Andrew Halcro, was the first to publicly mention the Wooten matter in connection with Monegan. He titled his blog post: "Why Walt Monegan got fired: Palin's abuse of power."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/510080.html

[ksuchewie]

Most of it was heard on a radio report. Here is web article that is probably in support of tearing Palin apart as they don't list any of the 5 charges that were brought against Wooten (ex BIL). I think using a taser on a 12 year old, drinking on the job, threatening to kill people, and poaching are all offenses in themselves that should get a police officer fired. But when you add all this up and he was only suspended for 5 days...I'd be using my position to get the guy canned, too. This guy doesn't deserve to be wearing a badge for any police department.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211769.php

agreed.

wait.....


did we finally agree on something :eek:

[jtkratzer]

agreed.

wait.....


did we finally agree on something :eek:

That's allowed...:lol:

[jtkratzer]

I saw this on another forum and thought you guys would laugh:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w121/jtkratzer/379048c08fcb14959.jpg

[TcRoc]

That is good ,,seems to be turning into that