Ron Paul video's...why I want him as our next president...

[jkroner659]

Here are some Ron Paul video's that will give you a sense of who this man is. Here is a clip of his major debate. At about 7 mins into this debate, Giuliani has to open his mouth and act as if his opinion of 9/11 and what caused 9/11 is the only one that matters :asshole:. Ron Paul was right and Giuliani was wrong and he was playing those stupid political games that I hate so much. Giuliani is not being honest and if he is I don't want him as our next president since he is so closed minded. He wants the US to police the world, which is just what gets us in trouble. He will be another Bush, and trust me...we don't want that in the coming years, we had way too much of that crap for the past 7 years:rolleyes::asshole:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8&mode=related&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on the 2nd Amendment...he is right on 100% on this issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdxTg9x3Mbg&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Quick immigration video, but it tells his plan pretty good, I think he is again...right on while being honest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZsBiZYocg&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on the IRS. Again, I agree 100%, the IRS should be abolished. Watch Aaron Russo's film America Freedom to Fascism to learn why, that film is well laid out and is factual. He is again 100% right on this issue IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCgHRoB6xUw&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on health care...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEdJ0DAGc&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on Monetary policy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-W-ef7GmT4&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on civil liberties...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6se9_wCZ2z0&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on Entitlements...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9JIwxhRfug&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on the internet...Ya you read that right:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRAcLPmq5M4&mode=user&search=

[jkroner659]

Ron Paul on Freedom...freedom loving Americans love Ron Paul...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsLcQiHKhic&mode=user&search=

[Dash Riprock]

I've heard his speeches, debates, etc... And I like the guy, but like I said before he's not getting a fair shake by the powers that be. He's too American and that just scares the hell out of certain channels.

[jkroner659]

He will be more and more popular as more people hear about him since he makes sense on all the issues I heard so far. Plus he is anti big government and we all should want that. He actually has a large following. I first heard about him from the beretta man.

The reason he is not getting a fair shake is because he is semi anti government like most of us should be. The people who wrote the constitution were Leary of government infringing upon their life and rights. They would not want a government that decides everything for them, that's why they wrote it in the first place because if it was up to the government none of us would own gun's since it is safer for the government that way. So he will not be given a fair shake since the propaganda machine(media) will most likely just block him out but Ron has the internet to show people who he is. U know I'm not a political person at all but I would endorse Ron Paul since he is so right on all the issues I have heard him speak on so far. He is older, he is a doctor(obgyn) and has been a congressman for 20 years trying to protect America and fighting for true freedom...I am 95% certain he will get my vote, I think he has a good chance he is head and shoulders above all the candidates. Thompson I'm not sure about since I have not heard him speak yet, but I don't even think he is officially running yet.

[KPierce]

I have to agree with Dash. Ron is just a great American, with much the same attitude that our founding fathers had. It's that type of attitude that all people in the country should have, but don't. Especially those elected officials who once they get into office begin to use the government for their own personal gain, instead of truly representing those that elected them.

The real test of honesty and service is for all people to watch and see which, if any, elected officials come out to support Ron Paul and Fred Thopmson. THough that do offer their support, need our support during the election. For all the rest we need to get better people in those offices.

[ksuchewie]

Sorry, I have not jumped on the Ron Paul bandwagon yet and never will. He is too libertarian. He wants to take all the power away from the federal government and give the states to the power to make all their own choices. While this may sound like a good idea in theory, the implementation is unrealistic, with outcomes that would set us back as a nation. My biggest problem with him is his plan to overturn Roe vs. Wade. While many people think Roe vs. Wade is just about abortion rights, there are also Dr.-patient & women rights included and taking those right away from people will cause more problems in healthcare. Illegalizing abortion will simply cause women to have "back alley" abortions where the chances of complications are much greater.

He also falls in the terms of hypocritical for me. He says we shouldn't have gone to Iraq, but he voted in favor of Public law 107-40, which allowed the president to go into Iraq. He also wrote a bill to declare war on Iraq, to make it "legal". Well if you don't support it, don't make it "legal". Let the blame fall on someone else. He also says government has no authority, but then votes to ban partial-birth, thus interjecting.

[jkroner659]

I did not know he was against abortion, I agree it should not be illegal. Um about the Iraq war, He is the only republican candidate that was against the war the whole time...I am not sure what your talking about but I'm also sure you didn't just make it up. When you think about it, there will never be a candidate you agree with 100% of the time right? So you have to pick and choose what topics you really care about and choose from them right? Like I said I am not a political party member but I am a registered democrat but I do not consider myself a member of any party. So I don't care is someone is a dem or a rep. I only care about their personality and their stances on some issues.

[ksuchewie]

JK, I got most of his info from wikipedia. That being said, I know wikipedia isn't always 100% correct, but it does look like the ron paul pages was footnoted with proof pretty well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul

Paul introduced legislation in October 2002 giving Congress the opportunity to declare war on Iraq, rather than merely "authorizing" the president to deploy forces without a declaration of war.

A basic rundown of his views:
Paul supports free trade, the military "don't ask, don't tell" policy,[94] tighter border security, gun ownership, voluntary school prayer,[95] and a return to free market health care. He opposes abortion, capital punishment, membership in NAFTA and the WTO, domestic surveillance, the draft, the income tax, the REAL ID Act, universal health care,[96] the federal War on Drugs, federal regulation of marriage, foreign interventionism and foreign aid. He advocates withdrawal from NATO and the United Nations for reasons of national sovereignty.[97] He has voted against funding same-sex adoption.[98] Paul has indicated that he opposes network neutrality: "But one of the basic principles, a basic reason why I strongly oppose this is, I see this as a regulation of the Internet, which is a very, very dangerous precedent to set". Paul has asserted that he does not think there should be any federal control over education and instead believes it should be handled at a local and state level.

Paul is the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War Resolution in 2002.[99][100] Paul voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force, which resulted in the War in Afghanistan in 2001,[60] but suggested alternatives including giving the president authority to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal to target specific terrorists. Paul opposes illegal immigration, birthright citizenship and amnesty. Paul wants to reduce illegal immigration and voted "yes" on the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

Paul is pro-life. He introduced The Sanctity of Life Act of 2005, a bill that would have both defined human life to begin at conception, and removed jurisdiction over abortion prohibitions from the federal courts.[101] Defining embryos and fetuses as persons would cause abortion to be treated as murder and outlaw stem cell research and some contraception and fertility treatments.[102][103] Paul says that the Roe v. Wade decision was unconstitutional, and should be overturned, because the Federal government is not authorized to decide such controversies.[104] Also in 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which, if made law, would forbid federal courts (including the Supreme Court) from hearing cases on subjects such as the display of religious text and imagery on government property, abortion, sexual practices, and same-sex marriage, would make federal court decisions on those subjects non-binding as precedent in state courts, and would forbid federal courts from spending any money to enforce their judgments.[105]


Things about him that piss me off:
Pro-life + anti-abortion + Roe vs. Wade removal = Bad news for women
Opposes universal healthcare
Against gay rights
Supporting don't ask/don't tell (which ulimately means let's assume and boot anyone out that looks/acts gay, but it's okay for them to have straight sex)

[jkroner659]

I like most of his views, but like you I don't like... his pro life stance, in that I think parents/woman should be able to decide. I am really surprised he is for this, since he hates federal government laws that impose their will upon us. I personally don't care about his anti gay stances since I am not one to advocate gay rights:lol: I really don't care if people are gay but keep it behind closed doors, whats with all this wanting to get married crap:limp:? I just don't care about the gay issue unless a candidate is for it so much you have to wonder why. I don't have an opinion on his health care plan since I have not looked into it and I'm sure it is a very complicated subject. So I really only disagree with him on the pro life stance, hey 1 disagreeable topic is certainly fine by me, plus I don't think he would make it a law that abortions would be illegal. He will probably get my vote:limp:

[ksuchewie]

I personally don't care about his anti gay stances since I am not one to advocate gay rights:lol: I really don't care if people are gay but keep it behind closed doors, whats with all this wanting to get married crap:limp:?

I have a hard time with the gay marriage debate. I am a Christian, and believe that marriage is between a man and woman. It is God's design, and that's they way he made it. Now, if our government was bound to follow Christian law, then I would say no, gay marriage should be illegal.
However, due to the first amendment, I cannot push my religious beliefs and say that gays cannot get married. I think the government should respect the constitution and allow gay marriage. Since the government provides a lot of benefits for married couples, they are saying gay poeple don't deserve the same rights as "normal" marriages. Let's look past the tax benefits you recieve when you get married, but in an Editorial from March of 2000, the New Jersey Law Journal gives some examples of rights denied to committed same-sex couples. “Same sex couples who are prohibited from marrying are excluded from a panoply of legal benefits specifically tied to legally recognized marriage: for example, access to a spouse's medical, life and disability insurance; hospital visitation and medical decision-making privileges… workers' compensation survivor benefits; spousal benefits under annuity and retirement plans…the right to refuse to testify against one's spouse…” and many others. These instances of discrimination based on the preference for legally married couples effect many people negatively when they least expect it. Unmarried heterosexual couples, however, have the option of being legally married. Same-sex couples have no such recourse.

[jkroner659]

I am not religious at all, but I still don't like the whole gay rights movement. I am not opposed to it as much as some but I just don't want to even think about it:limp::D So I can see their point but I just don't wanna get involved:Peace!:

[KPierce]

While I can agree that he is not the perfect candidate, he does outshine the others by a large margin in my book. There is never going to be the perfect candidate.

I am about pro-choice in this fashion. To me, pro-choice means that you have the means available to you to prevent pregnancy. If you choose to not prevent the chance for a pregnancy to occure when you consent to having sex, then I feel you shouldn't have the right to change your mind later. How ever for situations involving rape or incest then yes that was a situation forced on someone and abortion should be allowed.

As for same sex marriages, I am all for em. Many people talk about the religous implications and point to the fact that the bible is against such things. How ever if God created man to only be with a woman, then how is it that in every other species on this planet, there can exist same sex partnerships ? I come from a religious background myself, and while I am not gay, I don't have a problem with anyone who is gay except to say that forcing people to visually witness your choices in life is just as much an invasion of privacy as breaking and entering.

People must always remember that the Bible is the inspired word of God, but was not written by God. That will make some Christians upset to hear, but it is the truth. And just as it has been proven that if you take an average group of 10 people and line them up. Give them all a piece of paper and a pen. Tell the first person a couple of sentences of information. They must then write it down on the paper and then read it to the next person in line and so on. When the last person has finished writing down what they have heard, and you compare what everyone has wrote to what the original message was, there will always be differences in what every person has written down. So if that can happen with only 10 people in the same room at the same time, I find it hard to think that the people who have written the books of the bible, as well as all the books that were left out of the bible, so long after the fact must contain personal errors, or even have been swayed by personal or religiousd byass.
This is not to say that the bible is worthless, just that people need to understand the intent of the stories and parables as they are given, while realizing the exact wording isn't the best way to understand them. I mean there are instances of approved adulty, such as when Moses was commanded to lay with his servant woman so that he may have a son because his wife was barren. And many other such stories exist covering like that, especially in the old testament. I am not saying that adultry is ok by any means, and yet it does exist in the bible by God's command.

We as people will never truly move forward in this nation or in the world as much as we can until we learn that everyone and everything is here for a reason. Until we learn to accept it on faith that that reason is known to God and it is not our place to judges others based soley on color, creed, religious affiliation or sexual orientation, things are always going to be as they are now if not worse. Now I am not saying that thoise who rape, or murder, or steal shouldn't be dealt with. What I am saying is that just because someone looks different, believes differently(religion wise), or feels sexual attraction for someone of the same sex maes them no better or worse than I am myself. Because no matter what labels we put on each other, at the end of the day we are all only people and we all belong to the race of human beings.

And I think I have said enough so I'll stop for now.

[jkroner659]

Maybe I should have said, the gay rights movement does not involve me so I could care less. So I don't care about his stance on that, since it does not effect me. I don't have anything against gays per say(especially gay woman:cool2:) but gay men just...is sickening to me as it should be. So maybe I came off being a little against the gay rights movement but really I don't care all that much, I just don't want to hear about it all that much and I do not want to see 2 guys kissing on tv which has become more popular these days:vomit1: So if they are gonna push something through(legislative wise:lol:) just do it through congress and keep it out of my daily life, that's all I want.

And yes Ron Paul is head and shoulders above all the other candidates. If you watch that first link I posted, at 7 mins into it Ron is attacked by Guliani for saying we can't go around the world imposing our military/political might on other countries and not expect "blockback"(attacks and such) and he is right. But Guliani wants Americans to believe it is wrong to think like that...he is fucking crazy. Like Paul said, if China was over here building bases and shit, would we the citizens(if we had no military) attack their bases and people to get the fuck out of out country? Ron was right and Guliani is too dumb to see that point, he thinks we can do whatever we want around the world, and not expect blowback. And when Ron was being honest, Guliani was posing as America's mayer and acted like it was an insult since he was there in that city on 9/11, it's all bullshit guliani said, and I hope some people realize that he was playing politics and trying to get the mass of people to act like it was wrong Ron said that statement. And alot of people clapped when Guliani said that Ron should withdraw his statement, that goes to show people are stupid because they believe anything Guliani says about 9/11, and if anyone is in disagreeable with him, they are wrong because he was the mayer at the time.Dam, sorry for the long response:limp:

[Dash Riprock]

Vote for me and I'll do this:

I'll let you decide what's best for you. I have no idea what's best for you and your household... I'm doing good enough to manage mine! (like everyone else, just ask Al and Tipper)

I'll defend the constitution and bill of rights... All of them, even the ones written in clear English!

I'll fix health care. Healthy Americans should be a leading agenda.

I'll fix education... Kids will actually get one!

I'm pro life, but pro choice too. Pro choice because I want choice in my life.

I'll fix the border problem. I don't have issues with immigrants, but I want to send illegal aliens home.

I'll take my oath to defend this country against enemies foriegn and domestic deadly seriously and hold those in the government who oppose it as domesic enemies and eradicate them with extreme prejudice.

Golden fleece retirement packages for multi-millionaire politicians... Gone!

The UN in The US... Like it never happened, GONE!

These are just some of the things I will do. Ask any and all questions and unlike chicken dick politicians I'll answer anything on any issue without fear or random babbling to avoid the question.

:rockin: