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cupsz71
01-02-2008, 01:28 PM
This is a rant. If it doesn't belong here please feel free to move it.


Ah, nothing like a new year.

Went down to the local Gun Dealer today to use some of the Xmas money to pick up a new pistol I've had on hold since Dec 07', and found out that because I went home to Canada for Christmas, I'm now inelligable for ANY firearm purchase for 90 Days. WHAT?!?! :pissed:

Now a little history lesson on me:


1. Canadian Citizen with Perminant U.S. Residency Status for 12 yrs.

2. Bought new Beretta 92 in Nov. 07' under Immigration "green card" number with NO HASSLES what-so-ever, only had to produce proof of 3 months of consecutive residency.

3. Recently applied & tested for ND. Concealed Permit just before Beretta purchase - recieved permit in late Nov. 07' - 2wks after purchase.

4. Tried to use CCP for purchase today........& still used INS#


Doing that I gave the local FFL a dillema, so he called ATF who responded that my CCP was nice to have but was useless for buying firearms, and because I visited the folks over Xmas and I'm not a U.S. citizen....gave me a nice 90 day penalty.
Apparently my vehicle whould show up on any Federal BK GRND check (immigrant - they check EVERY federal dept that applies) and would "flag" INTERPOL as a licence plate to track, therefore "denying" my request for a firearm purchace.

Um.........I visit "home" frequently cause I'm only 120 miles away from it and my parents aren't getting any younger. This wasn't an issue in Nov 07' - or even a question asked by my local FFL gun dealer then, or by ATF when all the BK GRND checks were done......why an issue now?

I've come to the conclusion that this is probably more the FFL cover his collective butt from ATF hassles more-so than my "immigrant status" self. It was HIS recomendation to GET my CCP to "eliminate any potential hassles for future firearms purchases" by me, and then today be backpedals and reaches for the phone cause now he's not sure.

DOUGH!!!

I'm glad I'd already decided to finally go for my US citizenship this upcomming summer. As a bonus - all the paper-work hoops I've been jumping thru for the past 14yrs (+2 years to my current 12 for all the pre-marriage registration) for -EVERYTHING - can finally end.
Just 1 more test and $600
In the grand scheme of things it's been well worth it to get it done, and done LEGALLY

As an ADDED bonus - my CCP will actually mean something.

INTERPOL???? Wow I've hit the big time!

TcRoc
01-02-2008, 01:37 PM
Well all that blows but altleast you have your US citizenship to look forward too, so not that much longer of hoops to jump threw.

Dash Riprock
01-02-2008, 03:47 PM
Man, I feel for ya. I know people in Canada that have told me right down horror stories about going back and forth between the US and Canada...

One couple I know, a guy and girl, have gone through hell it sounds like. She's from the US, moved to Canada for him and when they try to come here for her to visit the border guards or whatever always give them a hard time on the US side.

It sounds ridiculous!

Anyway, hope things work out quick for you.

cupsz71
01-02-2008, 07:20 PM
K... I've calmed down abit.

Living in a post 9-11 world is a reallity I've got to put into perspective, and making border crossings can be either easy, or a real pain. I've had both.

I grew up in a "border town" not 14 miles from the US/CANADIAN Border so going back & forth to the US has been the "norm" for a while even before I got married & moved here to work & raise my family.

I was really cranky earlier and frankly quite impatient with the whole ordeal. And honestly somewhat embarassed with the whole "DENIED" aspect while standing at the busy counter. Mind you the FFL didn't run any of the numbers thru ATF he was just check'n on what to do. So I don't hold it against him.

So my new pistol will sit there for another 90 days cause there's nothing I can do about it.

I admit, sometimes overlook my whole "immigrant status issue" due to the fact in most things I undertake, I'm treated just like the rest of you Yanks.:Peace!:

OVERWORKED-UNDERPAID-UNAPRECIATED :kickrock:

LAter